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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #15330 by Geoff Roberts
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Ive been wondering which grinders are popular with Londinium users.

I have a pre 2016 Londinium 1, and am currently grinding with a La Cimbali Cadet, which has 64mm conical burrs. I’m really enjoying my coffee, but I suspect a grinder upgrade may open up the flavors.

Compak grinders seem to be popular here, and I recently had a cup from an e5 which was delicious, and is probably what got me thinking.

I’m pretty open to different options at this stage, electric or manual, flat or conical, hopper or single dose.

The only thing I don’t want is a doser, as I find them bulky and unnecessary for home use. Due to limited space I’d say the biggest grinder I could consider would probably be a Mahlkoenig K30.
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1 year 6 months ago #15331 by Abdulrahman Alzhrani
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I got Eureka e75 flat titanium burrs and I like it so far!I am thinking of upgrading to a single dose grinder to avoid retention and purging for the 1st time after not using it for hours. The E75 has a low retention volume compared to other commercial grinders though! It is always consistent and easy to use and clean. It is an unbeatable grinder in its price range.

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1 year 6 months ago #15332 by Reiss Gunson
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hi geoff (surely not three f's?)

i think it would help if you said you are not prepared to spend more than AUD X as the world of grinders is a wide one with many ways to slice it, depending on your personal needs

for example, some owners are happy with manual grinders, others like me have owned them in the past and would not consider another one. if a manual grinder was acceptable you could do a lot worse than the Pharos from Orphan Espresso. it isnt the last word in ergonomics, but it does produce a good grind quality. helpfully you have stated that you are not interested in a dosered grinder as this helps to narrow down the suggestions.

not all will agree, but for my money conical burrs are dead now that we have a lot of investment being put into highly aligned flat burrs; the world is moving toward lighter roasts, even in italy. if your budget allows a massive flat burr is the gold standard. why? because the volume between the top and bottom burr is such that it can contain the whole dose from the moment the beans are poured in; when the grinder is turned on the centrifugal forces throw the beans outwards and they are trapped between the burrs; no pop corning

conical burrs are always going to pop corn as soon as a weight of beans is not sitting above the burrs to hold the beans against the cutting face; i am not aware of any conical burr design that has solved this issue.

if you want to single dose there is a very short list of grinders that achieve this, so it comes at a high price

mahlkonig do make good grinders, no question

that said i have been using a Compak E5 since i sold my Compak R120 while i wait for another grinder (a Kafatek), and while the E5 does not provide the flavour magic that the top end grinders do, i am happy to say the grind quality is as good as a Compak E8

The Compak E5 is also really pushed to its limits to grind super light nordic style roasts fine enough, but given the price point that it sits at i think it is worthy of consideration if that is the price range you are considering

kind regards


reiss.

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1 year 6 months ago #15333 by Geoff Roberts
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Many thanks for the replies, that certainly gives me some things to consider. I may have had one too many coffees when I signed up, as it is Geoff rather than Geofff.

I can spend up to about $2k AUD and I’m happy to buy second hand to bring a more expensive grinder into that range. I’d rather spend now and buy right, and have a grinder I’ll be happy with for some years to come rather think about further upgrades.

The Kafetek grinders look ideal, but I’d need to wait for one to pop up second hand. The Helor Stance Motor also looks great and it is more affordable here, but they are sold out and I’m not sure if more will be made.

There are a few second hand Mythos one grinders locally under $2k which look good.

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1 year 6 months ago #15334 by Reiss Gunson
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the mythos one is a great grinder geoff

i didn't mention it because it is a big lump

kind regards

reiss.

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1 year 6 months ago - 1 year 6 months ago #15335 by Geoff Roberts
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Reiss Gunson wrote: the mythos one is a great grinder geoff

i didn't mention it because it is a big lump

kind regards

reiss.


It appears to be reasonably narrow though, so I could wedge it in against the wall. Height would not be an issue With this grinder, here is my current coffee corner.

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1 year 6 months ago #15336 by Frans Goddijn
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I like my R120 even though I mostly just use it for color measurements after a roast. The little Baratza Forte is there to take along when I go away for a weekend and the etzMAX is the most used one of the three. It single doses well but I keep the little hopper mostly filled.


L1-P, L-R, Compak R120 & E8, Pavonis, Rocket, Mazzer, Fracino Roastilino & PXG4, Coffee-Tech FZ-94, Tonino, VSTlab IV, Acaia scales, Pencil tampers
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1 year 6 months ago #15337 by Abdulrahman Alzhrani
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I forgot to mention that Eureka E75 has the exact burrs as Mythos One! You can buy it online for $1150.

Best regards,
Abdul

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1 year 6 months ago #15339 by Richard Gregory
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Geoff-

Anfim grinders seem to give good bang for the buck, and are a narrow footprint.

I'm a Compak, Anfim and Mahlkonig reseller in AZ and have sold a few grinders to forum users (on HB). There is a local climbing gym here that bought the two Anfim models and I was impressed with them. I really like the guitar tuner style adjustment for grind size. Whichever you buy, if it's got a hopper full of beans make sure you run the grinder while adjusting the grind.

Compak grinders tend to be a bit larger for similar burr size.

The only Mahlkoenig grinders I've sold are an EK-43s and the Guatemala, prolly a little much for a home user unless you are Frans :)

Currently I'm using a Niche Zero, the last bean can and will pop-corn on occasion but it is a big conical at a price that isn't matched. It, like the HSM is a large conical. I use it for all my roasts and enjoy it but it is certainly not a big flat. Although I haven't TRIED them, the 64mm SSP burrs are supposed to take a good 64mm flat and elevate it to the quality of the big flats, another option to consider.

I'd stay away from anything plastic :) This is a good time to be buying equipment.

Every man dies, but not every man gets to drink excellent coffee.

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1 year 6 months ago #15341 by Geoff Roberts
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Frans Goddijn wrote: I like my R120 even though I mostly just use it for color measurements after a roast. The little Baratza Forte is there to take along when I go away for a weekend and the etzMAX is the most used one of the three. It single doses well but I keep the little hopper mostly filled.


I hadn’t come across the etzmax before, that looks like it could be good. Will take a closer look.

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